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Things you never knew you wanted to know about Joel Bolomboy, Marcus Paige and Tyrone Wallace

July 1, 2016
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** Favorite food: bacon, any breakfast food
** Most excited to play against LeBron James, Blake Griffin, Russell Westbrook
** Wanted No. 21 but it wasn’t available, so wearing No. 22 (age he entered NBA)
** Which NBA player do you compare yourself to? Dennis Rodman or Kenneth Faried, Blake Griffin and Tristan Thompson
** Favorite color: baby blue or royal blue
** Favorite thing about Utah: mountains
** Professional sales major at Weber State
** Hobbies: movies, outdoor sports like hiking, biking, fishing, swimming
** Born in Ukraine. Mom is from Russia; dad is from Democratic Republic of the Congo
** Speaks French and Russian
** Favorite nickname: Ballin’ Boy
** No particular Jazz player he’s looking forward to playing with
** No favorite football team
** No idol
** No favorite NBA team
** No favorite TV show
** No favorite go-to dunk
** No favorite basketball drill


** Idol growing up: as a kid, Vince Carter. Now, his dad. Wore No. 15 as a kid because of Carter
** Favorite video game: FIFA
** Wanted No. 5, but Rodney Hood has it so wearing No. 16 (lowest number available, close to 15)
** Favorite music: Chance the Rapper. “Coloring Book” has been on repeat since it dropped
** Favorite NBA player to watch: Steph Curry recently
** Best friend is Brice Johnson
** Favorite food: a good medium ribeye
** Most excited to play against Chris Paul
** Which NBA player do you compare yourself to? Mike Conley
** Favorite NBA team growing up: Toronto Raptors because of Vince Carter
** Favorite sport growing up: baseball and basketball. Played center field and pitched until basketball took over


** Favorite NBA team growing up: Lakers. Comes from a family of huge Lakers fans
** Favorite food: Mexican
** Which NBA player do you compare yourself to? Like watching bigger guards like Jrue Holiday, Michael Carter Williams
** Favorite music: hip hop, RnB. Drake
** Other sports: huge football fan (Cowboys); played until high school
** Favorite video games: Call of Duty, 2K, Madden, FIFA (Bayern or Barcelona)
** Favorite TV show: Prison Break
** Most excited to play against Russell Westbrook
** Favorite midnight snack: sweets, cookies, brownies, cupcakes
** Whose music video would you like to be in? Meek Mill

Off-season Odds and Ends

June 27, 2016

One. Ron Boone on his hopes the Utah Jazz will honor the Utah Stars with a banner: You know, I would love to see that because there’s a lot of — you know, I get the questions from a lot of people, a lot of fans around here in Salt Lake City about the Utah Stars…

I think when the [Utah Jazz] first got here in ’79, I think a banner was hanging in the arena. For some reason, it was taken down.

But I would love to see that, and if you go to some of the NBA, ABA, NBA arenas now that had ABA teams, you know, they have some history of the ABA in their, on display in their arena.

Now, true enough, those were the teams that were taken by the NBA [from] the ABA and so you can understand why they have something like that. Utah was not one of them. But yeah, I would like to see something, you know, that would indicate, yeah, they were the team here before the Utah Jazz. (1280)

Two. Derrick Favors (@davors14) wearing the Stockton and Malone socks:


Previously on “People Wearing the Stockton and Malone Socks”: Shabazz Muhammad || Samuel Stockton || Dwyane Wade || Kevin Durant || Pink Grandma || Rudy Gobert.

Three. Everyone loves Quin Snyder. Euroleague MVP and champion Milos Teodosic on Snyder:

When asked which club would be at the top of his preferences, Teodosic picked two teams for some very specific reasons. “The San Antonio Spurs, since it is a team that has developed a style close to the so called ‘European’ basketball. The plays have a lot of extra passes etc.

Also the Utah Jazz. Their coach Quin Snyder is a former assistant to Ettore Messina (in 2012/2013 CSKA Moscow) and someone with a phenomenal attitude. He is a great man, one of the most promising coaches in USA right now. And he really knows me well. So I think I’d be a very good fit there, knowing him and his system of work. Also the composition of the Jazz is quite solid, they have a lot of young and athletic players.” (Eurohoops)

Teodosic to AK-47, 2012

In related news, here’s Dennis Lindsey on Snyder this past week: Is there someone that you can gravitate to that is more charismatic than Quin Snyder?

Four. #13 needs to be taken off the board of available jersey numbers.

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Five. Dennis Lindsey, worst Penthouse letter writer ever: I never thought it would happen to me. Gordon [Hayward] was literally dripping with sweat. I grabbed him…and I put him in Mark McKown’s office, grabbed Quin and said, “Hey.” He wasn’t aware of all this. He — so we told him and I told him Mark [Bartelstein] wanted me to grab him immediately…

Quin and I got a big sweaty hug, and it was all good, you know? It was, you know, in a weird way, the fact that it was put out there, allowed us to say a few things to each other that day that we probably wouldn’t have said otherwise. So, I know that sounds odd, but truth be told, I was really glad that was put out there.

Six. Dennis Lindsey’s summer plans: We’re gonna go into the free agent market and be very aggressive. We do want to spend our money fundamentally. If we can’t spend it fundamentally, then we’ll certainly save all of it, all the room that we have or a portion of it for the extensions that we have coming in the next few seasons. So, what we don’t wanna do is extend an amount on a player and then it puts pressure a year or two down the line.

Seven. Greg Ostertag is the best.

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Eight. Dennis Lindsey, worst Penthouse letter writer ever, Part 2: I just had a great conversation with [Joel Bolomboy] today, and he literally is like, “Can I get on a plane right now?” And so, you could feel his urgency…He surpassed my expectations on, you know, his eagerness to get started, which was cute.

Nine. Joel Bolomboy (@bolomboy21) wasn’t in New York so no draft suit, but he posted a pic of his (sponsored) draft outfit:

Someone explain to him he’s going to get socks photoshopped onto his feet in Utah so he’s not scandalously showing so much ankle skin.

Ten. Dennis Lindsey on draft trade that didn’t happen: There was one player, a really good player I can’t name, but he and his prominent agent were really working hard to try to get here during the draft, and I just couldn’t pull it off.

2016 NBA Draft / Utah Jazz Recap

June 24, 2016
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Before the Draft
** Walt Perrin on Joel Bolomboy: I would expect to be — there’ll be a nice little conversation going on if he f–starts falling to 42. His agent felt that — he didn’t want to work him out too many tim–I mean, have him go through too many workouts. And he felt that he would be gone before 42…He’s got the athleticism that Jeremy [Evans] has, and the tenacity and rebounding ability that Paul [Millsap] has, so there’s a little bit of a mix. He’s got, at the same stage, he’s got a better body than both of them.

** Perrin on Marcus Paige: I think, you know, Marcus is really a smart basketball player. It’s a little bit, I mean, at North Carolina, because of what they had on their team and what they needed, they needed Marcus to play off-guard and be a shooter. Marcus was a point guard coming out of high school, so it’s not like he doesn’t know how to play the point guard spot. He does, so.

He can be a coach on the court for you. A very smart player. He can knock down big shots for you. So, he can, there’s a few things he can do to help a team pla–to help a team win.

** Joel Bolomboy on what he plans to do with his first paycheck: Growing up in a hard-working family, we’ve moved around a lot and we never really had a place you can call home ’cause, just because we’ve moved around a lot. And you know, we never had a great working car, so it’ll be really cool if I could just get my parents in one spot for a long time, and just get them a couple cars that will last, you know?

** Marcus Paige on his workout with the Jazz: I did well. Didn’t shoot it as well as I have on some other days, but still shot it pretty well. That’s one thing I feel like I have to show in every workout, that I’m a great shooter. I played well in the pick and roll, showed a little bit of my sneaky athleticism, and defended OK. So, I think today I had a pretty good overall day.

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The Draft

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After the Draft
** Dennis Lindsey on Joel Bolomboy: We’re very excited about Joel* for a number of reasons. Character, [his development at Weber State], and athleticism is, you know, you guys saw the physical testing, so that’s a good place to start — to be able to move laterally, run, jump. So, he’s got some tools to work with, and so we really look forward to bringing him in.
* “Jo-elle”

** Lindsey on Marcus Paige: We do have a few point guards. Again, there’s some things that we’ll have to talk to Marcus about, relative to roster spot opportunity. That could mean several different things. But we’re very glad to have him in the program…

Marcus is an excellent player. He can really score the ball. He’s very underrated in his pick and roll skills…and, so, really, and then high character as well. Excellent suited. I think he was Academic All-American, or All-ACC Academic, so he really fits our DNA and culture.

And because of that, Marcus and his agent could be willing to work with us on a variety of things, you know, moving forward.

** Lindsey on Tyrone Wallace: With Tyrone, he’s a, he’s just a big guard. He’s a great defender that played for an excellent coach at Cal; excellent defensive program. And so, he’s very versatile. We’ll see that means.

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** Lindsey, asked if he tried to trade back into the first round: We tried significantly, and just wasn’t able to do it.

** Lindsey on selling the 42nd pick: There was no question to bring some money into the program and push that pick back to 55 was the right thing to do.

** Joel Bolomboy on being drafted by the Jazz: You know, I was just more than happy to hear my name called tonight. You know, going into tonight, from, just talking to my agent on the feedback we got, we were confident that I would’ve gone early second, late first, but that didn’t go as planned…

You know, I was just hoping. You know, I left everything in God’s hands, and you know, the Jazz happened to take me and they gave me the opportunity, and I’m more than thankful for it.

Walt Perrin on Draft Prospects: June 13-21, 2016

June 23, 2016

The Jazz have traded the 12th pick for George Hill. Better get this out before it gets even more irrelevant…


** Domantas Sabonis (Gonzaga / Forward-Center): He had a pretty good workout, going against himself…[I see him in the NBA as] moreso of a complementary player. I think he’s a rotational guy. I think he could probably start in certain situations in time, and I think he’s gonna help some teams win…I think he’s gonna have to continue to work on his outside 3-point shooting so he can stretch the floor, ’cause he didn’t do a lot of it at Gonzaga.*

He’s a pretty strong guy, but he can always get a little bit stronger, a little bit leaner in terms of his body fat…He’s a good passing big man…I don’t know if a lot of people equate this to a skill, but he naturally plays hard. You would think everybody plays hard, but that’s not necessarily the case, so when you see a player, especially a big guy, who naturally plays hard, you take notice of it.

* People who don’t say “Gonzaga” correctly: Walt Perrin

** Angel Rodriguez (Miami / Guard): I think Angel has, knows how to run a team. I think he played pretty well today. Shot it pretty well from the three. He’s got a chance to get a little bit better. I think he can — I don’t know if he’s an NBA guy though. Size could be a problem.

** Brannen Greene (Kansas / Guard-Forward): He had a little virus in his stomach, so he struggled. He had to step off the court a couple times, so it wasn’t the most perfect workout for him, or for us with him. But we got enough tapes on him. We know him well enough. But he struggled. I think he, because of that and I think because of the altitude, he had to interrupt his Jazz 100 once, and when he came back, [he] struggled…

Sometimes, there’s alw–there might be a personality conflict between a player and a coach that may not exist somewhere else. So, I mean, we had to i–we had to see that because Brannen has a NBA skill. He can really shoot the ball, so we have to, you know, uncover everything we can on him and see if he would be a guy that might help us win more games.

** Deyonta Davis (Michigan State / Guard-Forward): For [someone who worked out by himself], he did well, yeah. He showed some stuff in our workout that you don’t see at Michigan State…He’s got pretty good shooting touch from 18 [feet] on in. Very good, showed an ability maybe to eventually get out to the NBA three…[At] Michigan State, he did more defending the post than getting out and defending the pick and roll, but his feet are quick enough, you’d think he’d be able to do it. And he’s long enough to do it…

I think Deyonta’s shot’s probably a little bit better than what Derrick [Favors] was when he first got here…He plays with a little bit more smoothness than Derrick plays with, a little bit more — I mean, it may look less energetic than Derrick does, but I think he understands the game very well, so he gets to spots probably a little bit easier, and doesn’t look like he gets to those spots with a lot of effort, but he’s always in the right position, especially defensively. I think Derrick’s a little bit more energetic than he is right now…

I think competitiveness, he could get a little bit better. I think that’s one of the areas that he really needs to work on…I think he’s not a bad passer, but can he do some things that he needs to do on the NBA level? We don’t know for sure…

He’ll struggle a little bit probably with strength next year, but hopefully you get him in, you can work with him in the summer, get him a little bit stronger and work with him early fall to hopefully get his body a little bit more toned and a lot stronger…He’s a fairly quiet kid…

The thing with Deyonta is, he makes it look so easy when he blocks a shot. He just, you know, he gets to the right spot. He doesn’t expl–necessarily explode up to block shots, but he gets there with great timing and great length. So yeah, I think he could be a good rim protector at the next level.

** Marshall Plumlee (Duke / Forward-Center): His NBA skills [are] he plays hard, and he plays physical. Pretty good defender. He’s gonna have to work on his offense, so. He’s pretty athletic for a white guy a 7-footer. Runs well. So I mean, those type of skills, teams are looking for.

Players the Jazz didn’t work out

** Jakob Poeltl (Utah / Forward-Center): He’s come a long way f–since he’s been here in, for two years in, at University of Utah. They got a player that they really didn’t know a lot about, I don’t think, and they surprised him. I mean, he surprised a lot of us. He’s a very good offensive player. Has really soft hands. Right hand, left hand, f–he’ll trap. He runs the court real well. He rebounds real well…We think he’s gonna go just before us, but there’s always the opportunity. He may, maybe he’ll slide down to 12th.

** Furkan Korkmaz (Turkey / Guard): I knew he wa–he had won some slam dunk competitions in Europe. He’s a very good shooter. He’s kind of thin right now. He’s gotta get a little stronger, probably put on a little weight. Plays extremely hard. Really runs the court well. Can handle the ball…We kinda know him pretty well.

** Joel Bolomboy (Weber State / Forward-Center): His agent felt that — he didn’t want to work him out too many tim–I mean, have him go through too many workouts. And he felt that he would be gone before 42…He’s got the athleticism that Jeremy [Evans] has, and the tenacity and rebounding ability that Paul [Millsap] has, so there’s a little bit of a mix. He’s got, at the same stage, he’s got a better body than both of them.

** Social Media: We do a little of [sifting through players’ social media], and I think going forward we will be doing it a lot more. We’re starting to gather information on what social media sites the players that we’re interested in are actively on. We’ll probably have people, moreso in the future than right now, that will be looking at those particular sites and seeing if we can gather any kind of intel and information on a player that we normally won’t be able to get.

But it’s really big in colleges, I know especially on the football programs. And I think it’s something that, with us on the NBA level, we’ll probably get more actively involved and deeper involved with it.

** If he had the No. 1 pick, Perrin would take Brandon Ingram over Ben Simmons.

** How many of the guys you targeted for workouts did you get in? At the 12th pick, we probably, I think we only got in four guys, I think, in that particular range. But, you kn–c–quite a few other guys I would’ve loved to have gotten in, but I couldn’t get them in for obvious, or not obvious, but for pers–for reasons that the agent, or, didn’t want them to come in, or we couldn’t line up a certain date to get them in.

** Walt Perrin on Denzel Valentine, UDQM: He could go above us. He can go at us. He can go behind us.

Happy June Valentine’s Day!

June 22, 2016
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PSA for those who need it: He is a child. 😂😂😂


Walt Perrin on Draft Prospects: June 1-10, 2016

June 12, 2016
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** Shawn Long (Louisiana-Lafayette / Forward): [He] played ok. I think he could’ve played better. I think the altitude got h–to him a little bit…I don’t think he shot it extremely well.

** Bryn Forbes (Michigan State / Guard): He really competed. He fought through fatigue. He shot the ball like we know he can shoot it. Shot it extremely well. Talked. Tried to play defense, so. He had a good workout…[He and Ian Clark] are about the same size. They shoot it about the same. I think Bryn could’ve g–probably shot a little bit better than Ian could, off the dribble.

** Michael Gbinije: (Syracuse / Forward): I thought Michael did a very good job [on defense]. He fought well getting over screens.

** Malachi Richardson (Syracuse / Guard): I think Malachi’s got the ability to be a good defender…I think his [NBA] skill’s gonna be shooting, although his numbers don’t dictate that from what he showed last year. But he was a pretty good shooter going into Syracuse, so I think that’s gonna be his NBA skill…

He tried to [create off the dribble some] at Syracuse, and I think he struggled a little bit in terms of trying to finish. So, you know, if we, if he’s on our team, our coaches would work with him extensively with trying to help him finish a little bit better, try to shoot a little bit better off the dribble.

** Dejounte Murray (Washington / Guard): He did a lot of stuff by himself in this workout…He looked pretty good today. Probably shot it better than I thought he would. Picked up a lot of the drills quickly, so I mean, he looked real good today…Probably could play — he might be able to, because of his length, he might be able to guard a couple of positions [in the NBA], might be able to play, maybe a little bit off-ball, but he’s really a point guard…

I think [shooting]’s the main thing he’s gonna have to work on. I think he’s gonna have to work on — he’s such a downhill player. I think he’s gonna have to work on probably decision-making a little bit also, in terms of when to go to the basket and when to incorporate his teammates…I think [he and Dante Exum] can play together. I think they, I mean, those two guys could really shut down people defensively, I think.

** Brandon Taylor (Utah / Guard) and Chase Fischer (BYU / Guard): They both can shoot the ball. They both know how to score. Chase shot it pretty well today. I think Brandon struggled a little bit with the threes, but they both know how to score the ball…Size is gonna be a concern, especially with, well, both of them because of the position that they’re probably gonna play at the next level. So yeah, size is gonna be a factor.

** Brandon Taylor (Utah / Guard): [At the next level], at his size, he’s gonna have to be an elite defender. He needs to really be a pest defend–defensively. Offensively, he’s gotta be able to knock down open shots, be able to create and help his teammates become better players.

** Denzel Valentine (Michigan State / Guard): I thought he shot it well. Handled it pretty well. I think he’s gotta tighten it up a little bit more, but he showed the ability to put it on the floor and create a shot for himself…

I think he would fit with our team structure, from how we play and how he plays. I think he would help us a little bit in terms of, he is a pretty good shooter, and I think he’s gonna become better. He does pass the ball extremely well, which Quin [Snyder] likes. And I think he would fit into Salt Lake City…[His defense] is a work in progress…

He’s a gym rat. I mean, he’ll get in the gym without the coaches to work on what he needs to work on to be successful. So yeah, I have no qualms about his work ethic.

** Gary Payton II (Oregon State / Guard): Gary showed us what we know he can do. I mean, he showed really good ability to react defensively. I thought he, in terms of his shooting, I know everybody’s concerned a little bit about that, but I thought his standstill shot was good.

I think he’s, needs to work on putting the ball on the floor and getting his jump shot off, but he had, I thought he had a pretty good workout…He’s not a bad passer, I don’t think, but I think the defense is what can get him on the court probably next year, moreso than anything else.

** Kyle Collinsworth (BYU / Guard): Size helps, ’cause he can look over smaller players. Ability to pass the ball helps. He’s not overly long as a, as tall as he is. I think he said 6-6. I think we measured him at somewhere in that neighborhood, 6-5 and a half. So, that will translate to the NBA, but again, you know, he’s gotta be able to knock down open shots. The ability on our level to space the floor a lot better than at the collegiate level will help him, because he can put it on the floor and get by people and then find teammates.

** Alpha Kaba (France / Forward-Center): He’s gotta make the decision whether or not he wants to stay in the draft…I saw very good athleticism, whid–which we’d kinda seen before. I’ve seen him play over in Europe. He’s got a ways to go offensively, but he could be a rim protector, rebounder, rim runner-type player.

Want more Frank Layden? You got it.

June 11, 2016
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On the state of professional sports, and the Utah Jazz
Professional sports [has] a lack of loyalty on behalf of the com–of the team to the community, the demands they make on these communities, and also the prices of the tickets. You know, it’s a partnership.

You got the owners, who are making an investment and run the risk of losing it, though it’s not likely anymore. If your team is not drawing, not making money, you certainly can sell the team and redeem more than your losses. You know, when a team like the Clippers sell for, what, $3 billion or something? Come on. You know, you can buy a battleship for that.

So, you know, it’s, it worries me that the second rung of the partnership is the players, and they deserve that. They’re the entertainers. We need th–very few of them put people in their place, though. I mean, I would pay to see [Stephen] Curry. You know, I’d like to go see him, but I’d also pay a lot of money to go see the play “Hamilton,” you know, or “The Book of Mormon.”…

But you only have to see it once. You know, [with baseball], you gotta go through, you know, whatever they play, 180 games. You know, and they would play more — they’d be like the Harlem Globetrotters if they league didn’t have a, the players didn’t have a union. But anyway, you got the players, who are making a lot of money. A lot of money, all right? They’re part of the 1 percent.

And then of course, you have the fans. And the fans are hungry for happiness. They’re happy for hope. You know, I went out with some Jazz officials yesterday, and I said to them, “What you’re selling is not basketball games. You’re selling hope.” …

I think it’s important that you go [to games] and you have a good time, but we’re buying hope and we don’t want to spend more money, all right, if we’re gonna pay the coaches millions of dollars, and that is gonna come back to me and how much money I have to spend to see the Jazz or see the Utes or whatever it is.

I want results. I buy hope, and that’s what they’re selling. They’re selling hope. How about the Jazz? It’s not like the Jazz — are we happy to make the playoffs? We fired that, what’s his name, a couple of years ago. Tyrone [Corbin] — and we haven’t moved up. We’re in the same spot. You know, it’s unbelievable, you know?

On players thinking they know better than their coaches, and Pat Riley
[Magic Johnson] got rid of the coach they had. Paul Westhead. I don’t — and it happened here, by the way. Did you ever know that? It was after one of our games.

But I don’t know if he got — I think he liked the idea of Pat Riley because Pat Riley was “dumb.” He hadn’t coached before, so he could put him over here. And he didn’t know Pat Riley was a very good student and he studied the game.

I remember being at a dinner in Long Beach — Santa Barbara, and Pat Riley coming to me afterwards and saying, “How did you get that technique of speaking?” I was the main speaker.

And I said, “I don’t know. I just did it through the years and what have you.”

And he said, “I–” and you know what he did? He went to USC and he took public speaking. He went back to school. He admitted that he didn’t know how to stand in front of people and speak. Now he gets $50,000 a shot…

He admitted he had a problem. He even said to Hubie Brown — he flew Hubie Brown in to spend time with him. He said, “I’ve never coached in my life. Tell me about coaching.” And Hubie Brown — with Dick Motta and [Jack] Ramsey and Jerry Sloan are probably one of the great coaches of all time; Hall of Famer — and worked with him.

And [Riley] was a quick study, and he became a good coach. And when he did, what happened? Magic Johnson became a better player.

On the player he would’ve loved to have coached, and what the Jazz are missing
I would’ve loved to had Dr. J[ulius Erving]. I tried to get him. I brought him here. We had dinner at Larry [H. Miller]’s house. We offered him a big contract, when he was right near the end.

I convinced Larry — I said, “Listen. This is not the Dr. J that they saw in the ABA. He’s at the, he’s probably, maybe he’s done already, but he will have an influence on our team that will be very, very important. And I want to have him. I think we’re on the brink now of just becoming pretty good, and if this guy brings his work ethic to us…”

I’ll never forget this. How many players do this? Dr. J used to call ahead and say, “How can I help you sell tickets? You have a luncheon I can go to or do something like that?” Yeah, the guy, so smart, and I would’ve loved to have a chance to coach him and have him on our team.

I think — and I’m not, maybe — I’m a fan, so I have a right to do the thing. I don’t get free tickets; I don’t ask for free tickets. But I think this is what’s missing from the Jazz. There’s no older heads there.

There’s no Billy Paultzes. Billy Paultz, huh? People — was he that good? Eighteen years in the league, 18 playoff teams. You know, he never was on a team that wasn’t in the playoffs. And so, you know, Rich Kelley, you know, coming off the bench. You know, I think they need some older players who can balance [the team]…

I think that besides having balance in who your players are — you can’t have all forwards; you can’t have all guards; you can’t have all centers — but you can’t have all youth, either. You can’t have [all] young players, because they may all grow old together. What you have to have is balance.

And I think it’s always good to have a couple of guys on the bench who have been there, who know what it’s like to be in the playoffs, that know what it’s like to — you know, I mean, if we look at, say, for instance, the Jazz staff, all right?

Same thing: inexperience. They’re growing, and the team’s growing. I think they should have a nice 60-year-old assistant coach there. Look at [Gregg] Popovich. You know who his assistant coach is? The guy from Italy, sits next to him. He’s known as the Johnny Wooden of Italy…I think there’s nothing like old heads…I remember me. I always felt good, because I had Jerry Sloan.

Where Are They Now: David Stern
David Stern and I were not only professionally linked, but we consider ourselves good friends. I’ll tell you how good. He called me up about six months before he announced his retirement, and he said, “Frank, I’m retiring, and I know you retired. You seem to be very happy. What advice can you give me?”

You know, and here’s a guy who, you know, he’s on the board of directors, the trustees at Columbia University, you know? I have Columbia insurance. So anyway, he’s, you know, he is a very smart guy, and I told him, I said, “You gotta have a game plan. You gotta ha–you can’t play golf every day.” You know, and, well, he plays tennis. “You can’t play tennis every day. You’re thinking at first you can, but then you’ll look for other things.”

I said, “Put down what you want to do. You’re, you know, whatever it is, travel, and see, share it with your wife.”

You know, and he’s, he took it very serious, and a year later, he said, “I found what I have to do.” And this is interesting. He lives up in Greenwich, Connecticut. He said, “I went down into Manhattan.” He said, “I found an office. I hired my old secretary from the NBA back,” he said, “and I opened a business.”

He said, “I miss getting up in the morning, getting dressed, and taking the train down to New York, or taking a limo down to New York.” He said, “And so, I’ve opened a consulting business.” He said, “I work as long as I want. I own the business. I don’t answer to anyone,” he said, “but this is what I want to do.”

On the scam he and Hubie Brown used to run in the dorm
We were roommates in college, and we were always arguing, arguing about baseball. And we used to run a little scam, all right? Probably the NCAA would arrest us if we do it now.

But we used — during the World Series, we used to go around, particularly to where the seniors were, and go to the dorms, and collect money, all right, from them. And what you did was, if you had bet a dollar — it was a dollar bet, ok? If you bet five dollars, you could win six dollars, and this is what you had to do. Think about this.

You had to pick three players who would get six hits in the World Ser–in any game. We do it game by game, and you could take any player on either of the teams. You’d say, “Yeah, that sounds pretty easy, huh?” I mean, yeah. Three players that get six hits…

[You get low-percentage hitters who light it up], or you get guys who, you know, are great hitters but don’t hit in the World Ser–or they hit, oh, they’re out. You know, one guy gets 2-4. The other guy gets 1-3. The other guy gets 1-4. You know, so you end up with four hits instead of six. Six is hard to get. So, Hubie and I made a little money doing that.

What one suggestion would you give to Adam Silver to make the game better?
The game’s too long, all right? But they want to sell beer. So they play for three hours, four hours if they could, all right?

The game’s too long. The season’s too long. I think [the season should be] two halves with a break in the middle to let the players pull themselves together.

Part of the, of this [Finals] series that we have right now is, we are looking at two fatigued teams who were in the playoffs last year, played all the way into June, you know? Then they make personal appearances and every–they come back into the season…

I would suggest that they shorten the season and maybe even shorten the games. I don’t know. I think the fans would get better. The year that we had the shortened season, the quality of play went up and the cost to the fans was a lot less…

Pat Riley and I had a suggestion about [making up the difference in revenues with a shortened season]. We said, let’s have a season that starts, and we play 30 games, all right, until the middle of December.

Then, we take the top teams in the East, all right, and we take — we take eight of the, eight teams in the East, or six, all right, and we take six or eight teams in the West, and we have — to make up this money, because Christmastime is the downtime in the NBA, all right? They try to build it up with the Christmas Day games and every–people are spending their money in other places…

And then what I’d do is, during that time, play a tournament. A Christmas tournament between the East and the West, eight teams on–or six teams on each side; if you want six or eight, it doesn’t matter. Have good prizes, like Mercedes Benzes to the winning team. You know, to each player. That would be nothing. You know, give each player a Mercedes Benz who wins the championship.

And then, the other teams could practice, and train, and scrimmage with each other, and get themselves better, and then start a second half — little minor leagues used to do that — and start the second half of the season. Thirty games; Christmas tournament; 30 more games, all right, and it would shorten the season, and there’s, when the NCAA Final Four, basketball fever, March Madness ends, the playoffs start the next day. (KALL)

Jerry Sloan honors NBA Coaches Association by accepting Chuck Daly Lifetime Achievement Award

June 9, 2016
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The selection committee for the Chuck Daly Lifetime Achievement Award is made up of Rick Carlisle, Billy Cunningham, Pat Riley, Gregg Popovich, Donnie Walsh, Bernie Bickerstaff, Lenny Wilkens and Phil Jackson.

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NBA Coaches Association President Rick Carlisle: Jerry, you know, is a guy that, all the guys coming up in my generation — you know, Jeff Van Gundy’s here. You know, Mark Jackson* is a guy that, you know, really respects the history of the game. There’s nobody looked up to, you know, more than Jerry Sloan and what he stood for. You know, he was all about keeping it simple and doing it hard, and he wasn’t into a lot of the fluff. So you know, it’s a great honor to be here tonight.

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Jerry Sloan: I’m not one that like to be in the [limelight] of what goes on in this business sometimes, but I’m really honored by the fact that I would be thought of at this stage of my life, to receive an award. I always thought awards should go to the team and not to me…The MVP award, it should be the people that go play and do the hard work. Assistant coaches, I think, deserve to be recognized m–as much or more than the head coaches. The head coaches get to be talked to every day. I want to thank the Coaches Association for having me here, and I’m very fortunate that Tammy could be with me.

* Ugh. How does Carlisle not know? And then the camera had to go and pan to Jackass sitting there like a lumpy, cancerous potato,** no doubt wondering why the selection committee didn’t choose him for the award.


* Apologies to potatoes. And lumps.

Off-season Odds and Ends

June 5, 2016

One. Dennis Lindsey on Justin Zanik’s departure for Milwaukee: On a personal level, he’s a friend and someone that I care deeply about. And he just did an excellent job for us…

You know, we’re very happy our program — our ownership is very happy that we’ve been able to help him, in a small way, you know, achieve his goals. It’s a little bit of a tip of the hat to the program…It makes me feel good on a personal level to be able to help somebody. Been able to do that at a few different stops now…

I’ve tried to remove myself from [the new assistant GM search], and I just want to make a good decision for the Jazz. While Justin and I were friendly, it wasn’t like we were confidants when I hired him. I just felt like he had a lot of traits that I was looking for.

Two. Lindsey on sharing information on draft decisions with other teams: As a young executive in Houston, I really got into talking to other teams, and you know, contrast and compare and doing a mock draft, if you will.

I, as I got through it, I didn’t find it that helpful. I felt like my time was better spent concentrating on the video and the diligence that we had built up…I lean on other people to network with other teams, unless teams have something specific that they need to talk to me about.

* Items No. 3-9 proudly sponsored by the off-season.

Three. Which came first, the post to Jeff Withey’s Instagram (since deleted; H/T @bjcseven)…

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Four. …or the tweet (since deleted)?

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Five. The IG post also auto-posted to Withey’s Facebook (since deleted; via The Big Lead):


Six. And just to make sure more people saw it, Kennedy Summers then reposted her post to Withey’s IG on her own IG (since deleted; via The Big Lead):


Seven. Withey responds on IG (since deleted, but auto post still up on Facebook):

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Public service announcement for the next two items: As a general rule of thumb life, it’s never a good idea to read the comment section of any online post. Do not try this at home.

Eight. And the online community weighs in, Part 1 (since deleted):

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Nine. And the online community weighs in, Part 2 (since deleted):

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Ten. Unintentional Dirty Quote Machine of the Week (UDQM)
Dennis Lindsey on integrating coaching and scouting and management ahead of the draft: This week, we’ve gone hard for two days, and it’s been really exciting on a number of different things, because I did think there were a few guys getting to know Quin [Snyder] better after two years, that coach would be excited about. And sure enough, those guys that I thought would be intriguing to him, in fact are.

Walt Perrin on Draft Prospects: May 2016

June 1, 2016
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** Jordan Loveridge (Utah / Forward): He shot the ball pretty well from the three, which I kind of, after looking at him early and watching him during the year, I thought he might struggle a little bit more than he did today, with the NBA three.

I think he’s gotta, first and foremost, he’s gotta probably get in better shape, and I’ve told his coaches that. I don’t think he’s in great shape for a kid from Salt Lake, or from anywhere in Utah, ’cause of the altitude. So, he’s gotta get his body in great shape.

He’s gotta, I think, improve his shooting. I know he’s gotta improve his shooting, especially with the NBA three, ’cause he’s a little flat right now. But he did shoot high 50s out of 100, which was one of the better ones here.

** Thomas Walkup (Stephen F. Austin / Forward): One of the few guys I haven’t seen. I don’t know for sure yet [what is his NBA position], so I need to see more tape on him, see where he plays on our level. As one of our staff members says, he’s just a player at, [who] may not have a position right now but plays multiple positions, so.

** Ryan Anderson (Arizona / Forward): It’s something we, that I noticed as I watched him play. He showed he really knows how to play the game. He’s got a good understanding and a good feel on how to play.

He showed the ability, and I kept re–I don’t think he shot extremely well from the Jazz thre–or 100, but he showed in a game situation he can knock down the three.

** Jared Uthoff (Iowa / Forward): Jared shows he knows how to play. He was good in as–some aspects of the workout and he needs to work on some other things, naturally. His shooting of the Jazz 100 was…upper 50s…I think he needs to become a better ball-handler that are, being b–able to probably make plays off the dribble a little bit more.

** Ryan Arcidiacono (Villanova / Guard): He’s a tough-nosed kid, smart, plays well, plays hard. Competes on both ends of the court. Knows how to get shots in the paint because of, he knows how to use his fee–footwork, pivots. So I mean, he had a good workout.

** Retin Obasohan (Alabama / Guard): It’s the first time I’ve seen him. I didn’t get a chance to see him at Alabama, so. I mean, he’s just a great athlete. Built like a football player…

He’s, again, s–just such a great athlete. It was a pleasure for me to see. He’s, does a very good job of getting into the lane and finishing strong at the basket. Again, he’s one that really competes hard, so it was nice to get him in here, and especially nice for me to see him play.

** Thon Maker (Australia / Forward-Center): If we’re gonna say he can’t play until his body gets ready, that’s probably gonna be three years…You know, again, I’ve seen him play, and that’s better than watching him in the workouts…He’s gotten a l–I think a lot stronger in terms of how to play. I thought he shot it a little bit better than when I saw him two years ago, also…

Because of his body size, you know, he’s gonna have a tough time posting up people. And he is a good shooter, so you probably look at him more as a face-up player than, moreso than a back-to-the-basket player…

I think for his size, he’s a very good athlete from baseline to baseline. I think, again, for his size, as a vertical athlete, probably about average, just to, just a little bit above average. Baseline to baseline, he’s really good for his size…He’s got a ways to go to improve his body…

His rebounding numbers, again, at, players in his age group, were pretty good. In terms of being a defender, again, with his body size, he could have problems with a power player inside. Can he guard out on the perimeter? I think with his length, he probably could be able to keep guys in front of him…

He’s a very smart player, ’cause he picks up things fairly easily. Has he had the greatest of coaching in the last four years? Probably not. But he’s one that’s willing to learn. He’s gonna work at it…He’s an extremely well-spoken, smart guy.

** Demetrius Jackson (Notre Dame / Guard): [He looked] good, strong. He’s able to get to the basket pretty well. Shot it, I know he shot it well during drills. I think his 3-point shooting was, probably a little bit above average. Played pretty well…

Like all college guys, [his defense] has a ways to go. [He may be short, but] he’s so strong, though. I mean, I think that’s gonna help him at his position. And he’s, you know, pretty quick.

** Marcus Paige (North Carolina – Guard): I think, you know, Marcus is really a smart basketball player. It’s a little bit, I mean, at North Carolina, because of what they had on their team and what they needed, they needed Marcus to play off-guard and be a shooter. Marcus was a point guard coming out of high school, so it’s not like he doesn’t know how to play the point guard spot. He does, so.

He can be a coach on the court for you. A very smart player. He can knock down big shots for you. So, he can, there’s a few things he can do to help a team pla–help a team win.

** Andrew Andrews (Washington – Guard): He competed. I think he’s one of the guys that kind of struggled with his shooting a bit at times, and, but he did compete. He played as hard as he could, and he tried to play as a point guard.

Unintentional Dirty Quote Machines of Draft Workouts (UDQM)
** Walt Perrin on draft workouts: I think it’s gonna be a struggle getting some of the guys we want in that’s gonna be in our range, let alone people who are above us, because of the nature of our team. So, I will work it. I will see if I can get them in. But I’m not overly optimistic I will be able to get them in.
** Andy Larsen to Perrin: If it’s a North Carolina guy, does Quin go extra hard on him?
** Perrin on finding late first round steals: We think there could — again, history will show you that there’s somebody down there that becomes very good, and we just gotta figure out who it might be and if we wanna pursue it.
** Perrin on the 12th pick: We’re gonna try to get in guys above us. We’ll get guys in below us.
** Thon Maker on film study: [When] somebody would explain to me something that I’m doing wrong, I would ask somebody to tape it so I can see it. You know, how I did the footwork, what I did wrong, what I could improve, how I can make it faster, how I can slow it down, you know, to get a better shot.


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